the president talking about the fiscal cliff, et cetera. >> obama: for them to be burdened unnecessarily gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms, obviously with would also have an impact on the economy, because if this family has a couple of thousand dollars less to spend that translates into $200 million of less consumer spending next year. >> stephanie: oh this just in -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: nancy pelosi is going to brief us on the fiscal cliff talk at 12:00 eastern. >> it's joke! >> you can't take anything boehner says seriously at all. it's so win-win for the democrats on this. and i would like to see the president go off the cliff and let the republicans try to vote it down. >> stephanie: we posted a great article -- it was the best thing i have read about the l.a. times, where he said let's hold hands and walk down together. it's not that bad. all of the nobel prize winning economists asking george bush not to enact these policies in the first place. >> exactly right. this was used because bill clinton has a surplus. bush said l